tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post2136702267098915547..comments2024-02-25T09:32:00.063+00:00Comments on The Frugal Cook: What I made with my bargain buysFiona Becketthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12970779962455905201noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post-43463214524239983932011-02-03T14:07:30.207+00:002011-02-03T14:07:30.207+00:00Indeed it is. Try it - it's a good 'un!Indeed it is. Try it - it's a good 'un!Fiona Becketthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12970779962455905201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post-91916934248082104112011-02-03T13:57:24.613+00:002011-02-03T13:57:24.613+00:00Is this a recipe from your book at the end here?
h...Is this a recipe from your book at the end here?<br />http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/life/food/article2897232.ece<br />Article titled: Can switching from wine to beer cut your alcohol intake?<br />Recipe is Sierra Nevada Chicken <br />From An Appetite for Ale by Fiona and Will Beckett (Camra, £19.99)TrillianAstrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12662019303903582370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post-66593035192430394952011-01-03T21:30:43.630+00:002011-01-03T21:30:43.630+00:00You're right. It is complicated. And not a que...You're right. It is complicated. And not a question of black and white. I want to support local farmers but don't always manage to do so sometimes for financial reasons, sometimes for reasons of time. I buy Fairtrade tea, coffee and chocolate most of the time. I buy organic produce when I can afford to but would rather buy produce I know is fresh and locally produced. <br /><br />This blog however is primarily about showing that whatever your budget you can eat well. For many people the only shop they have access to is a local supermarket so supermarkets have always featured and will continue to do so, I'm afraid Adrian. Along with posts like this http://thefrugalcook.blogspot.com/2008/03/buying-direct-from-producer.htmlFiona Becketthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12970779962455905201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post-37608289067292125662011-01-03T18:59:11.900+00:002011-01-03T18:59:11.900+00:00I'm in the 'if you care and do your best w...I'm in the 'if you care and do your best with the resources you have (time, money, availability) then a person is already doing much more than your average has-no-idea-and-doesn't-really-care-that-much-really' camp.<br /><br />Many butchers now only sell plastic packaged mass produced pink goo. I won't buy - but aren't I supposed to be supporting local businesses? <br /><br />It's as complicated and tangled as a ball of glass noodles in a glass house, so if someone is trying their best, I leave it at that.<br /><br />As for the leg of lamb, I haven't had that in years. Too expensive. Eaten is better than land fill which is the alternative.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post-88701608629511427732011-01-03T15:38:15.291+00:002011-01-03T15:38:15.291+00:00Adrian, it comes down to a simple matter of afford...Adrian, it comes down to a simple matter of affordability.<br /><br />I can afford to spend an extra £ or so making sure I buy free-range eggs, but I cannot even contemplate buying a leg of lamb or a roast at full price.<br /><br />My "moral boundaries" exist only within the limits of my everyday purchases. I have none for what I cannot afford to buy.<br /><br />I wish I could afford to buy with <i>all</i> the right motivation in mind, but between concerns about fair trade, healthy eating, carbon mileage, farmers' livelihood and whatever else I have forgotten about, <i>this</i> consumer is feeling overwhelmed by the potential consequences of her (limited) buyer power...Clairenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post-29952927479607188792011-01-02T17:14:41.364+00:002011-01-02T17:14:41.364+00:00Claire - your moral boundaries on other fronts are...Claire - your moral boundaries on other fronts are admirable, but why shouldn't you also embrace fair prices for producers as another tenet? You're already making decisions about buying eggs which have been farmed more sustainably and in a more welfare-friendly manner - don't you think a producer who takes trouble to ensure his lambs are well-produced is also entitled to a fair price?<br /><br />I have no objection to buying good products when they are already reduced; as Steve said, it's more likely that in those cases it's the retailer who's taking the hit, rather than the producer.<br /><br />But if you don't look after the producers who have a conscience about the food they produce, and the food you like to eat, they won't be sticking around for long...Adrian Bellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post-33503966633713981092011-01-01T21:07:47.453+00:002011-01-01T21:07:47.453+00:00Actually you should take a look at my article in t...Actually you should take a look at my article in the Guardian this week notSupermum http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/jan/01/new-year-resolutions-wine-reviewFiona Becketthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12970779962455905201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post-854560331630401932011-01-01T16:05:05.090+00:002011-01-01T16:05:05.090+00:00Ah yes, i see it now....
It's no coincidence ...Ah yes, i see it now....<br /><br />It's no coincidence then that I've decided to have an alcohol free January!Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00124374747737466986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post-63755526559130079362011-01-01T16:01:29.778+00:002011-01-01T16:01:29.778+00:00I'm sure it's pretty standard stevethemeat...I'm sure it's pretty standard stevethemeat but yes, it explains exactly why so many butchers are going out of business. <br /><br />You make my point exactly Claire. There are a lot of people (including me) who simply can't afford to buy the more expensive cuts unless they're reduced. So you either look out for special offers or buy the cheaper cuts and the latter isn't a viable option for people who can't or haven't got time to cook. <br /><br />I used to have a very good butcher down the road who was brilliant at putting out bargains but a lot of places now simply sell the expensive cuts. Ideally you should the kind of relationship with your butcher where he knows what you're looking for and what you like but that sort of butcher is rare these days. <br /><br />And if you're making the recipe Shayma I'd up the quantity of spices by about half in order to cover the lamb thoroughly.)Fiona Becketthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12970779962455905201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post-27289320170943131512011-01-01T12:55:23.041+00:002011-01-01T12:55:23.041+00:00happy new year, Fiona. i love Claudia's book -...happy new year, Fiona. i love Claudia's book - this leg of lamb must have been scrummy. x shaymaShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14316092310251306421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post-58372922588259289862011-01-01T12:48:41.771+00:002011-01-01T12:48:41.771+00:00Re Adrian Bell's comment:
Is it my responsibi...Re Adrian Bell's comment: <br />Is it my responsibility, as a consumer, to ensure producers make a living?<br />If I see an offer or a promotion, should I refuse to buy because the producer <i>may</i> have been commercially coerced?<br />Speaking as a penny-watching buyer, I cannot always afford to buy meat at full price.<br />I set my own "moral boundaries" (no caged eggs, no generic cheese, no poultry products from a recently-deceased poultry tycoon...), but in all honesty, the producers' costs do not figure in the equation. I cannot justify buying lamb (and other meats) at the prices shown before a sell-by-date reduction or a promotion and I do without.<br /><br />If the the producers' costs were to make an apparition in my list of "moral boundaries", I would expect the same producers to take my own purchasing powers into account.<br /><br />This could be an interesting discussion...Clairenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post-65992403272874130722011-01-01T12:42:06.492+00:002011-01-01T12:42:06.492+00:00Been in the meat trade for many years. i wouldnt w...Been in the meat trade for many years. i wouldnt worry too much about the cheap legs of lamb guys. im pretty sure the farmer would have got the price he wanted for the whole lamb.and it would be the supermarket that would lose the profit.although they really only have to put 1 penny on a tin of beans to counteract the losses.<br />ive seen legs of lamb going for £4 per kilo..to put that into some kind of perspective a case of legs of lamb(8 legs in number) purchased from a wholesaler.recently cost £5.98 per kilo.OUCH! its no wonder our independent traders are vanishing!mr stevethemeatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post-8891635415874212722011-01-01T11:45:16.909+00:002011-01-01T11:45:16.909+00:00You'll spot I suggest shoulder towards the end...You'll spot I suggest shoulder towards the end of the post notSupermum (still a bit woozy after NYE?!)<br /><br />Great idea about anchovies Robert. I love anchovies and lamb.<br /><br />And the lamb was on offer from the Co-op Adrian, and then further reduced because it had reached its sell-by date though you raise an important issue which is should we be buying cheap meat at all? I know a lot of people who read this blog want to so I do write about the bargains I find - from supermarkets and from butchers - and pass on what I do with them.Fiona Becketthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12970779962455905201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post-31599275260011704612011-01-01T11:20:25.121+00:002011-01-01T11:20:25.121+00:00You don't say how you came by your cheap leg o...You don't say how you came by your cheap leg of lamb. If it was reduced, fair enough - but at that price, whoever produced that lamb won't have covered their costs.Adrian Bellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post-64450320363673032422011-01-01T11:04:24.040+00:002011-01-01T11:04:24.040+00:00Lovely article Fiona and Happy New Year to you too...Lovely article Fiona and Happy New Year to you too! Personally, for this recipe, I would use shoulder, as I believe this cut is not only cheaper, but also very suitable for slow-cooking with flavoursome aromatic spices. A good tip for cooking leg is to add some finely-chopped anchovies, which just melt into the meat and season it during cooking. Tastes yummy!Robert Giorgionehttp://www.robertgiorgione.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3362152498675364583.post-39255385263659916622011-01-01T10:51:36.413+00:002011-01-01T10:51:36.413+00:00Happy New Year to you! That lamb dish looks amazin...Happy New Year to you! That lamb dish looks amazing - I love lamb, it's my favourite meat. Do you think it could work with a different cut of lamb, as my budget won't stretch to a leg?Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00124374747737466986noreply@blogger.com